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	<description>Can I earn enough online to leave my corporate career?</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Picking the right classified ads platform for Joomla by J David Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.jdavidrogers.com/2007/12/12/picking-the-right-classified-ads-platform-for-joomla/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator>J David Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the positive feedback.

ESL Jobs World is currently running on Joomla 1.0.  Version 1.5 was still in beta as I was developing it.  I haven't yet experimented with Joomla 1.5 yet as the 1.0 release has done a good job with the site thus far, although I'm sure I'll experiment with it at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the positive feedback.</p>
<p>ESL Jobs World is currently running on Joomla 1.0.  Version 1.5 was still in beta as I was developing it.  I haven&#8217;t yet experimented with Joomla 1.5 yet as the 1.0 release has done a good job with the site thus far, although I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll experiment with it at some point.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drupal or Joomla?  Picking a CMS by chris janes</title>
		<link>http://www.jdavidrogers.com/2007/04/07/drupal-or-joomla-picking-a-cms/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>chris janes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried Joomla and Drupal. Finally i fell in love with Drupal. For me there was virtually no learning curve with it. Almost everything was more or less self-explanatory to me. 
Joomla / Mambo was (and is still) very strange in my opinion. I still don't understand the internal logic of them and my impression of Joomla was: complicated, produces ugly html, unlogical, strange, inflexible; But that was only a first impression. I'am shure, that you can become lucky and productive with joomla, if you get the idea of this cms, but obviously my brain lacks the ability to become familiar with joomla. I think the choice of the right cms is a very personal one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried Joomla and Drupal. Finally i fell in love with Drupal. For me there was virtually no learning curve with it. Almost everything was more or less self-explanatory to me.<br />
Joomla / Mambo was (and is still) very strange in my opinion. I still don&#8217;t understand the internal logic of them and my impression of Joomla was: complicated, produces ugly html, unlogical, strange, inflexible; But that was only a first impression. I&#8217;am shure, that you can become lucky and productive with joomla, if you get the idea of this cms, but obviously my brain lacks the ability to become familiar with joomla. I think the choice of the right cms is a very personal one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Picking the right classified ads platform for Joomla by smak786110</title>
		<link>http://www.jdavidrogers.com/2007/12/12/picking-the-right-classified-ads-platform-for-joomla/#comment-754</link>
		<dc:creator>smak786110</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice subject...
Just curios to know, in which Joomla version did you install ?
was it version 1 or version 1.5 ?

I want to install either Noahs or Ad manager in version 1.5 ... 
any ideas or suggestions ?

again, very interesting blog you got here....
itll grow soon if you keep posting topics like these...

Good luck...

visit my blog sometimes- www.Theburjalalam.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice subject&#8230;<br />
Just curios to know, in which Joomla version did you install ?<br />
was it version 1 or version 1.5 ?</p>
<p>I want to install either Noahs or Ad manager in version 1.5 &#8230;<br />
any ideas or suggestions ?</p>
<p>again, very interesting blog you got here&#8230;.<br />
itll grow soon if you keep posting topics like these&#8230;</p>
<p>Good luck&#8230;</p>
<p>visit my blog sometimes- <a href="http://www.Theburjalalam.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Theburjalalam.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Drupal or Joomla?  Picking a CMS by ChrisW</title>
		<link>http://www.jdavidrogers.com/2007/04/07/drupal-or-joomla-picking-a-cms/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just (literally) set up a simple website in the last few days using Drupal and a free template I found on the web.  I have previously used Mambo (more or less same as Joomla) and was happy enough with it at the time.  Now I've tried Drupal, I realise what I was missing!  Mambo was clunky, temperamental and fairly convoluted to set up initially, and I never did persuade my users to add content of their own to it.  In contrast, Drupal has been a breeze to set up, the internal logic is admirably straightforward, the interfaces are pretty easy to use and the add-on modules I've tried so far are excellent. 

But you're right about the positive user support around Joomla and Mambo, although so far I haven't has any problems with Drupal that I couldn't fix myself or with a bit of help from the WWW.

IBM compared Drupal and a few other CMS for a test project and went for Drupal.  They explain why here:  

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/ibm/osource/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just (literally) set up a simple website in the last few days using Drupal and a free template I found on the web.  I have previously used Mambo (more or less same as Joomla) and was happy enough with it at the time.  Now I&#8217;ve tried Drupal, I realise what I was missing!  Mambo was clunky, temperamental and fairly convoluted to set up initially, and I never did persuade my users to add content of their own to it.  In contrast, Drupal has been a breeze to set up, the internal logic is admirably straightforward, the interfaces are pretty easy to use and the add-on modules I&#8217;ve tried so far are excellent. </p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right about the positive user support around Joomla and Mambo, although so far I haven&#8217;t has any problems with Drupal that I couldn&#8217;t fix myself or with a bit of help from the <a href="http://WWW" rel="nofollow">http://WWW</a>.</p>
<p>IBM compared Drupal and a few other CMS for a test project and went for Drupal.  They explain why here:  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/ibm/osource/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/ibm/osource/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Drupal or Joomla?  Picking a CMS by wendell</title>
		<link>http://www.jdavidrogers.com/2007/04/07/drupal-or-joomla-picking-a-cms/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>wendell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't speak for Joomia, but I had in the past played with Wordpress as my personal blogging app and recently have been working on the side for a small magazine to turn a Drupal install into a customized publishing system - following the New York Observer Model.

So I have some ideas perspective of an end user to a developer.  Basically, the potential and flexibility of drupal is amazing, but the usability lacks and as mentioned in some of the comments the learning curve is like smacking into a solid brick wall at full flight.

That said, if you need customized solutions you have amazing tools like the content construction kit (CCK).  Here I was able to define all the fields for the magazine's story, edition and contributors. So we could get our content to behave exactly as we wanted.  The CCK paradigm, combined with views (a module to retrieve information and present it) will depreciate a large number of current drupal modules as you can role your own, how ever you choose.

However, this last point really belies the learning curve and the current leanings of drupal towards developers. At first I personally found the drupal forums lacking, but as I developed my drupal vocabulary and began to understand the drupal paradigms, I was better able to describe my problem and search for solutions.  I am now easily able to find the information I need.  Every problem I have had thus far has been described in detail somewhere in the forums - it was a matter of being proactive, rather than reactive.

I suspect your question may have gone unanswered because it may have been asked before.  This doesn't forgive the negelect, but again belies the leanings towards developers.

From the little bit of reading I have done on the Joomia/Drupal comparison, Joomia seems to focus on the user and as such may be a good choice for your project.  However, if you are really planning to expand what you are doing in the future, and need a very flexible CMS you may still want to play with drupal.  For me personally the real power is in the Content Construction Kit, and custom theming and views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak for Joomia, but I had in the past played with Wordpress as my personal blogging app and recently have been working on the side for a small magazine to turn a Drupal install into a customized publishing system - following the New York Observer Model.</p>
<p>So I have some ideas perspective of an end user to a developer.  Basically, the potential and flexibility of drupal is amazing, but the usability lacks and as mentioned in some of the comments the learning curve is like smacking into a solid brick wall at full flight.</p>
<p>That said, if you need customized solutions you have amazing tools like the content construction kit (CCK).  Here I was able to define all the fields for the magazine&#8217;s story, edition and contributors. So we could get our content to behave exactly as we wanted.  The CCK paradigm, combined with views (a module to retrieve information and present it) will depreciate a large number of current drupal modules as you can role your own, how ever you choose.</p>
<p>However, this last point really belies the learning curve and the current leanings of drupal towards developers. At first I personally found the drupal forums lacking, but as I developed my drupal vocabulary and began to understand the drupal paradigms, I was better able to describe my problem and search for solutions.  I am now easily able to find the information I need.  Every problem I have had thus far has been described in detail somewhere in the forums - it was a matter of being proactive, rather than reactive.</p>
<p>I suspect your question may have gone unanswered because it may have been asked before.  This doesn&#8217;t forgive the negelect, but again belies the leanings towards developers.</p>
<p>From the little bit of reading I have done on the Joomia/Drupal comparison, Joomia seems to focus on the user and as such may be a good choice for your project.  However, if you are really planning to expand what you are doing in the future, and need a very flexible CMS you may still want to play with drupal.  For me personally the real power is in the Content Construction Kit, and custom theming and views.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drupal or Joomla?  Picking a CMS by themegarden.org</title>
		<link>http://www.jdavidrogers.com/2007/04/07/drupal-or-joomla-picking-a-cms/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>themegarden.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 19:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both, Drupal and Joomla are really great. Both have strengths and flaws.
Out of the box, joomla has a bit more features, and has shorter learning time.
On the other site Drupal is more flexible and more powerfull. A lot of "big players" those days converting their sites to Drupal (for example http://www.observer.com/ - New York Observer)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both, Drupal and Joomla are really great. Both have strengths and flaws.<br />
Out of the box, joomla has a bit more features, and has shorter learning time.<br />
On the other site Drupal is more flexible and more powerfull. A lot of &#8220;big players&#8221; those days converting their sites to Drupal (for example <a href="http://www.observer.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.observer.com/</a> - New York Observer)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drupal or Joomla?  Picking a CMS by eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 22:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about mambo? i've been reading a lot of discussions regarding the merits and limitations of each of the three, but a lot of time the threads are one or two years old. i am happy to find this fresh discussion, and would want to hear opinions on joomla. the 2 most important aspects for the current project is SEO friendliness and end user easy of use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about mambo? i&#8217;ve been reading a lot of discussions regarding the merits and limitations of each of the three, but a lot of time the threads are one or two years old. i am happy to find this fresh discussion, and would want to hear opinions on joomla. the 2 most important aspects for the current project is SEO friendliness and end user easy of use.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drupal or Joomla?  Picking a CMS by Matt Seymour</title>
		<link>http://www.jdavidrogers.com/2007/04/07/drupal-or-joomla-picking-a-cms/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Seymour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 14:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started out on the path for a PHP CMS just over a year ago, knowing nothing about PHP, MYSQL etc. Drupal seemed the most promising but I just couldn't get my head around it. The learning curve was too steep. In my experience greater flexibility goes hand in hand with a more complicated user interface. Ultimately I think Drupal's flexibility could be its downfall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started out on the path for a PHP CMS just over a year ago, knowing nothing about PHP, MYSQL etc. Drupal seemed the most promising but I just couldn&#8217;t get my head around it. The learning curve was too steep. In my experience greater flexibility goes hand in hand with a more complicated user interface. Ultimately I think Drupal&#8217;s flexibility could be its downfall.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Analyzing both major and niche competitors by kanian</title>
		<link>http://www.jdavidrogers.com/2007/03/26/analyzing-both-major-and-niche-competitors/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>kanian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 19:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really good article dave. Helps seeing, practically, how to  analyse the supply-side of the market. Now, when it comes to the demand-side of that same market, I find it much less obvious how to get meaningful information. What do you think could be the right method to get such information?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really good article dave. Helps seeing, practically, how to  analyse the supply-side of the market. Now, when it comes to the demand-side of that same market, I find it much less obvious how to get meaningful information. What do you think could be the right method to get such information?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drupal or Joomla?  Picking a CMS by J David Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>J David Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the good comments everyone.  

I definitely agree that Drupal is a solid platform.  While I have been very happy with Joomla and feel it was the right choice for my current project, I still plan to work on a Drupal site at some point in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the good comments everyone.  </p>
<p>I definitely agree that Drupal is a solid platform.  While I have been very happy with Joomla and feel it was the right choice for my current project, I still plan to work on a Drupal site at some point in the future.</p>
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